Newb with a question--where to find 6 ring spines?

Hola:
I'm a newb with a planner fetish and am most happily making my way through all the resources here...and love as much that it's all free--so thanks to all involved.

My question...i've decided i'm done searching for the ideal planner and am making my own (like many here). I want to make something similar to my filofax personal size but am having a devil of a time finding the 6 ring spine that accommodates the 3 3/4" X 6 3/4" paper. I would like to affix the spine to whatever material in whatever pattern I choose...and am excited to get started.

But these spines are hiding from me. I've searched extensively online using a wide variety of search terms, to no avail. Is there anyone out there who can point me in the right direction?

And in case anyone else is wanting to do the same: here's a how-to I stumbled across (on martha stewart of all places) in my search for the 6 ring spine.

Link

I'm getting the feeling that decades from now my headstone will read "...and she never did find the 6 ring spine."

Many thanks!
GP

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Cannibalize

Hi.

The only suggestion I can make (short of googling for parts) is to go to the office supply and see if they have a binder of the size you want that has *removable* rings. These would be affixed to a plastic card that fits into a pocket of the planner cover.

Of course, such would come ready-made with a cover...but if you don't like it you don't have to keep it. You could sell it to one of the Circa junkies who doesn't need metal rings. :)

shris

the search goes on.

thanks shris. i've tried that before but like the permanent more constructed feel of clamping the spine into the cover.

this is quickly becoming an obsession, i'm just hoping someone out there has some info. the other problem is...i've found a few suppliers (all b2b of course) and the minimums are through the roof. (i'm never going to make 280 planners either for myself or as gifts)

hm....

Maybe

I bought a 7 ring insert at my local Franklin Covey a few months ago, maybe they have a 6 ring too? I couldn't find it online though.

hacking with a hack saw

I've purchased a cheap binder, and then used a hack saw, a hammer and a nail set to destroy the rivets that held it in. Then, re-riveted it to the thing I wanted to use it in.

Some of the pricier binders use hex bolts to affix the mechanism, so you could detach them with a hex wrench. But, that's pricey.

Tandy Leather Factory sells a diary kit that includes a six ring binder. From the description, I can't tell whether they've already attached. the link for that is http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/products.asp?number=44470...

Also, there's a place that sells a little 2 ring binder.
http://store.scrappingwithstyle.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIE...

Maybe one of these would work?
-kmorris

Seconded

I've purchased a cheap binder, and then used a hack saw, a hammer and a nail set to destroy the rivets that held it in. Then, re-riveted it to the thing I wanted to use it in.

I second this... Although, finding a file to file it down may ba bit less brutal. ;-) Alternately, if you could find somebody with a rotary motor tool--a Dremel tool--that would be ideal. The easiest way to find somebody with a Dremel is to ask around and see if any of your friends and acquaintences is a model railroader. Most mrr folks have one. Ask me how I know. ;-)

-Jon

Seconded

I've purchased a cheap binder, and then used a hack saw, a hammer and a nail set to destroy the rivets that held it in. Then, re-riveted it to the thing I wanted to use it in.

I second this... Although, finding a file to file it down may ba bit less brutal. ;-) Alternately, if you could find somebody with a rotary motor tool--a Dremel tool--that would be ideal. The easiest way to find somebody with a Dremel is to ask around and see if any of your friends and acquaintences is a model railroader. Most mrr folks have one. Ask me how I know. ;-) Oh, almost forgot to add, usually, guys with a Dremel will be _more than happy_ to do the dirty deed for you! ;-)

-Jon

i'm only brutal to rivets that are in my way

otherwise I am the soul of gentleness. did sound a bit brutal though, didn't it. :) Okay, I use a thin metal hacksaw to slice carefully through the rivet, then gently tap out the remainder of the rivet with a hammer and nail set. And voila, the binder mechanism has been set free.

Hadn't even thought of the Dremel, that'd definitely be the way to go. Lots of folks have those, both chicks and dudes. All kind of crafty folk find all kind of uses for them.

-kmorris

You need the mechanism

The spine is the plastic or board part of the folder.

If you google 'ring binder mechanism' you'll find the rings.

I won't post the links I found, as the tinned-processed-meat checker tends to eat my linked post *shrug*

i tried that and didn't find

i tried that and didn't find much. (the spine and the mechanism are usually sold together, i've never seen them separated). the suppliers i did find have high minimums (i'm looking for a few, not a couple hundred lol) and are set up for b2b, not for consumer orders.

BUT--i posted the same topic somewhere else (another diy board) and the single supplier

http://sdtradingco.com/hardware-other2.htm

pretty reasonably priced.

the hacksaw method...sounds if you've got a workshop (or even a hacksaw). I'll take my chances with the internet. Thanks for the suggestions.

I'm kind of floored though that there aren't more suppliers for this kind of thing...

cool web site!

that is a great web site that you found! Lots of fun DIY stuff there. Thanks for the link.

I am also surprised that there are not more suppliers, but it looks like you found a good one. I just might give this a try as well! Sounds Fun!

If you do purchase from them, please let us know how it goes!

Clearance

Nifty site! To be remembered. ;-)

Did anybody notice on the first page of their clearance items, a leather kit for a cigar holder? It looks like it would make an interesting fountain pen carrier/case, too--for those who would be interested in something that looked like that.. :-D

-Jon

I have one

I happen to have one six ring binding mechanism sitting in my samples box. It has six,one inch rings... three on top and three on the bottom. The rings on top are spaced 3/4 inch apart and the ones on the bottom are spaced 3/4 inch apart. There is two inches of space in the center between the two sets of three.

If that is the configuration you are looking for then email me with your address and I will send it to you. The ring mechanism is made by Bensons. I can send you some tubular rivets to attach it also but you would need to find a rivet setter. Your local cobbler will have one.

Arthur

Thanks Arthur, I've sent you

Thanks Arthur, I've sent you an email. I really appreciate it.

Nay Nay--I'll definitely post back on this thread if i the project goes well and I end up placing an order.