looking for a specific product

I have been looking & looking for a product available online that is similar to binders I got in Asia some years ago. There is no Japanese bookstore near me and I would really like to find an online retailer. What I am looking for is:

- ring binder (open/close - not spiral)
- Jr(ish) size that has ~20 rings
- blank refill paper avaiable online OR a good punch online
- index tabs also available for purchase
- simple but colorful covers

I am a Circa person for most things, but I really would like a ring binder for this one.

Any ideas?

Thanks so much,
bc

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If you have an older one, please post pictures

Your description confuses me. That many rings/holes on that small a page ? I want to see one, please.
Put a ruler in the picture for size information.
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I think I know what

I think I know what bluechromis is referring to. I've seen them in the Japanese bookshops here. The notebooks are spiral bound but the spiral can snap open to be refilled with paper. The paper is punched with different types and sizes of holes to fit other types of ring binders.

Did I describe it right, bluechromis?

Can you get some pics, Chet ?

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ygor I'll try. Maybe I'll

ygor

I'll try. Maybe I'll get one since I've been meaning to get one for a long time! They come in A4, A5 and B5 sizes.

Google is my friend !!

Like this ?

Translated
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

Close, but not exact. The

Close, but not exact.

The one I'm referring to has a lever on either side of the "spine" to open and close the entire set of rings. The one on the linked page seems to show the user opening each ring one at a time.

But take a closer look at the paper - do you see some of the holes are bigger than the rest?

Yes, Chet, that's it.

Yes, Chet, that's it. Exactly.

And the paper is punched with small holes for the ~20 rings but two holes are larger because I assume the paper will also fit in a 2-ring binder. The larger 2 holes aren't really a necessity for me...

bluechromis You're right -

bluechromis

You're right - Campus is the brand.

The Japanese section of Kinokuniya here stocks these binders and refill paper. In fact, the choice of refill paper is very good. The binder choices are very good, too. That's what got me thinking about getting one years ago, but I never did.

Is there a Kinokuniya near you that you can go and check?

I remember

No, unfortunately there is

No, unfortunately there is no store near here. I'm about 3 hours from Chicago, but from what I can tell there isn't even one there. Being in the midwest, Chicago was my best bet. I have their US office contact info bookmarked and I will probably try to call early this week & see what they say.

Granted, I don't speak Japanese, but I can't find the ring binder product line on the Kokuyo website...

bc

did you find the binders?

I came across this thread while I was searching for almost the exact thing you were. I have a few Campus Slidebinders (plastic, not metal) made by Kokuyo. Size B5, for 26 holed paper. (bigger than the I think size A5 you described). I'm also in chicago, so i was wondering if you found a shop or a place online that sells them. I would try the bookstore at Mitsuwa out in Arlington Heights, but that is way far for me.

You'd need a punch...

to go with it to be diy-able about it.

Anyone seen an appropriate punch ?
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This sort of product has been mentioned before

Over here
See if what I said then helps any
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You guys are the BEST!

You guys are the BEST! Thank you for trying to find this & point me in the right direction. The ones I have are the Campus brand which I believe are manufactured by Kokuyo in Japan and they were indeed purchased from a Japanese bookstore in New York. I would like to source possibly a large number of them, along with the pre-punched paper and I am coming up totally empty. You'd think SOMEONE would be selling these online...I mean it seems like pretty much anything else under the sun is available. :)

Anyway, this is the closest I've found online, but it is from a random manufacturer in China and it is A4, not A5.

link

And here is mine:
My Campus/Kokuyo

...hopefully I did these links correctly.

Thank you once again very much. If anyone has a lead, it'd be great.

bc

perhaps...

Just spoke with their US branch to see how big of an order it would take to import some. Also trying to see if Kinokuniya can get me the ~100 or so I need in order to get started.

bc

Keep us informed

There's lots of folks here who would snap up two or three, given the chance.
Got any web links ? I have not yet found any.
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contact info & next steps

I was hoping someone might say that. :)

The contact info for the US office of Kokuyo is here:

contacts

...at the bottom of the page.

I learned that I need to bring in about $3,500 worth of merchandise to meet minimum order requirements. That'd be several hundered binders. This just represents the books, not tabs, sheet protectors, zippered pouches and punched paper...all of which they have available and for which I have approximate pricing. This also does not include shipping and tarrifs. I have no clue what those items would cost. Lastly, Kokuyo doesn't have an online catalog and their only printed catalog is entirely in Japanese, which makes it a little tough to be 100% sure what I'd be ordering.

So we are not quite in a spot where I could move forward. Yet. The Kokuyo guy is sending me product codes for the exact items and I'm going to see about ordering a smaller quantity of those exact item codes from a Kinokuniya bookstore so I can see for myself what we're dealing with. The folks from Kinokuniya have called me back but we're playing phone tag.

If I can get ~100 of the books, I will most likely proceed with an order because the purpose of all this is that I'm planning to launch/market a new product. (It is not a general organizer product...it's for a pretty specific market.) But if some of you wanted to buy a few of those initial binders/accessories without the special pages I'm working on, I don't see why that wouldn't work out fine.

Feels like I'm on a mission...

bc

Try Kinokuniya first

In one of the above posts, Chet stated that Kinokuniya carries these binders. They already have the necessary importing mechanism already in place. You may be able to purchase in lower quantity from them.

I cannot see Kinokuniya's web site due to filtering at work. I will be checking them out when I get home. I'd buy one out of curiosity if they are not too costly.
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Yep!

Yep, in my recent (long) post i mentioned that I'm in the midst of phone tag with Kinokuniya about getting ~100 of the books.

The hard part seems to be getting the product codes & being sure exactly that product I'm ordering without being there in person.

Maruman manufactures a similar line, also carried by Kinokuniya. I may order 1 or 2 of various products & accessories the first time just to see what I like the best.

First I need my tax id so I can get the wholesale pricing. Woo Hoo!

bc

wow

That must be some project you're working on!
100 books sounds like you'll be busy for a while!

By-the-by, those do look like neat notebooks.

I am a notebook junkie

Well, I'd be selling them.

Well, I'd be selling them. I can't put TOO much money (from savings) behind the project prior to being sure that it'll sell, but I also don't want to start with too few. It's a tough call but I guess about 100 sounds right to me. Hopefully I'l be making bigger orders down the road!

Glad you like how they look. I am stangely heartened to see that even among planner/notebook-oriented folks such as are found on this site, these binders aren't well-known. Good to start my project with a somewhat unique design. Compared to sourcing/licensing from Rolla, these Japanese ring binders are more expensive though.

Decisions, decisions.

bc

Hey bc I went by the

Hey bc

I went by the Japanese Kinokuniya store yesterday evening and saw the binders. They are carrying the B5 and A4, but no A5. I didn't get any, since you've already found what you need and shared links of relevant sites and pages.

All the best to your new business!

B5

I have been considering the B5 size too. But the A5 is just so easy to handle.

Do you use any B5 things? What's your opinion of that size?

Thanks for taking a look at the store & also for the well-wishes!

bc

The B size is not very

The B size is not very common here in Malaysia. The B4 size is between an A3 and A4, while the B5 is between an A4 and A5. As such, the B5 offers more space than A5 in a size more compact than A4.

If B5 is more commonly available, I think I would use it more, too.

Does the end user need to be able to open them?

You mentioned having a project - does the end user need to open the notebooks or just you to insert the specialized pages? The reason I ask is that if only you needed to open them, then using a coil binding might do the trick. Coil punches are easily found and the coils come in all sorts of different colors.

That said, I do like the notebook you're looking at! It would be nice if they were available here.

Good luck with your project. :)

thanks!

Yes, indeed the end user has to open the book. I used to work for one of GBC's ad agencies and I'm familiar with at least some of the coil binding products on the market. It's a good, cheaper, easier idea, so I appreciate your suggestion. I should look into whether a coil punch could be modified or somehow used to create the 20-hole paper these A5 binders require.

Sorry to be so vague on my business idea. It's in the early stages...registering as a corporation, securing the name, URLs, etc. I will of course "share with the class" when things are more developed. Given that it needs to be worked on in my spare time (what's that?!?), it may be a while.

I have used my Kokuyo / Campus binders since I bought them in 1998 or so and always get nice comments on them.

hello i just came across ur

hello

i just came across ur blog and i know exactly what u are talking about. i know MAIDO sells this item, but they are located in san fran. ( i live in az) ..did u ever get ur shipment of 100 and were considering starting a business..let me nkow..i would like to buy from u ...ive been searching for these binders and papers forever