Lev compact capacity / agenda question

Two-part question:

I've taken a deep breath and am about to take the plunge back into pen & paper agendas starting with a Levenger leather compact circa notebook.

Question 1: I'd like to include an agenda plus address pages plus extra sheets for notes. How well will that fit in the compact notebook without having to get bigger disks?

Question 2: I just realized that if I'm going to use Levenger agendas, that's going to cost $28/year and rising, which is fairly ridiculous. I did some quick looking around at the templates here and the problem I see is that they don't seem to generate the actual days/dates, so I'd have to hand-write them all in. Is there a way to print out pp including the days/dates for a year? If it matters, I'm looking for a week across 2 pages, similar to what levenger has here: http://www.levenger.com/Pagetemplates/Product/MorePhotos.asp
(sorry, couldn't get the link to work)

Thanks for any help!

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levenger agenda paper capacity

I have a Junior size Levenger Agenda. It uses 3/4" rings and I think all the Agenda's have the same size rings. There's definitely room on there for a few more pages. Also the Agenda comes with some pages of information you may or may not find useful: a timezone map, lists of area codes, major holidays. Depending on how many pages you take out, I'd guess you could fit an extra 20 - 40 pages. Enough for some casual notetaking, but not enough to be a serious planner. What I'm using: Circa notebook with 1" rings, weekly agenda pages, tabbed dividers, one pocket divider, one zip pocket, and one business card holder.

In answer to your other question, there are some calendar pages on the site that do include dates. Not many people use the compact size, but you should be able to print and tell your printer to scale down to the size of the Compact pages. Of course then you'll need a paper cutter and the hole punch, but that would be an investment well worth it. The weekly planner pages I use are available here in both 2007 and 2008 pages (thanks again Mark!) They are a simple layout and scale well. I've had good luck with those all the way down to 4x6" index cards

-Kenny

thanks for info / bargain 2007 agenda

ygor: Thanks for the link, but I couldn't download the template, I think because I'm not using a Mac.

sup: Sounds like the agenda has enough room for what I need, but it could be tight; I'll have to see when everything arrives. (I placed the order this afternoon. Why isn't it here yet. . . ?) Also, do you know if the leather notebook disks are the same size as the Agenda disks? And when you insert the agenda in the notebook, do you remove the notebook disks and just put the leather covers on the agenda, or do you have to remove all the pp from the agenda and stick them in the notebook? Good to hear there are planner pages with dates (though the ones you're using aren't quite what I'm looking for).

Speaking of which, I love designing stuff like this, but from what I've read here these templates require an enormous level of expertise in programs I've never heard of. Can someone sort of sum up what's technically involved in designing templates? That is, can someone with a PC and a pretty good ability to catch on to things sit down and figure it out? Or does it require expensive programs and years of computer training?

Btw, the 2007 Levenger agenda can now be had for $4.95 on their website.

waiting for Circa

ygor's program is Mac only, but I believe the way he is creating it, he should be able to make it available for other computers at some point. Luckily I'm on a Mac :-)

I hate waiting for fun new stuff to arrive too. I got the A-Z tabs and address book refills and will be using a Junior size notebook as my address book.

I think the Leather notebooks are either 1/2" or 3/4" discs and the Agenda is 3/4" discs. If you want to switch discs around, you can't really take the rings out of a notebook. You have to take all the pages and covers off the old rings and put them on the new rings. You should be able to just take the Agenda pages you want to use on the rings of the leather notebook OR take the leather cover, swap it with the Agenda cover, and then remove the Agenda pages you don't need.

On designing the templates: you shouldn't need years of training or expensive software. You could start with the OpenOffice template kit (available on this site) and OpenOffice (free software) and just start messing with it. Some people use Adobe Acrobat to create PDF's (a bit expensive - a couple hundred bucks). Check out this link for how to make your own templates: http://diyplanner.com/templates/official/makeyourown

-Kenny

A-Z tabs! I knew I forgot

A-Z tabs! I knew I forgot something. I looked at Levenger's and I think adding 26 plastic dividers to the agenda/address book will take up too much space and weight. I'll probably get those sturdy Post-it tabs, letter them, and just stick them on the edge of the pages. Any other ideas?

post-it or levenger tabs

The Post-It tabs work great and are fairly inexpensive. Another option: if your order hasn't shipped yet you may be able to call the customer service number on Levenger's website and ask for an item to be added to your order. I actually did that with my last order. I realized as soon as I printed off a copy of the receipt that I'd wanted to order the 4 pack of MicroPDA's, called them up and told them to add it to the order. And they did.

One thing to keep in mind: the Levenger tabbed dividers are plastic and thicker than paper. I'm not sure how much room they will take up in your planner (mostly since I haven't received mine yet). I plan on having a address book notebook at home and just keep my important numbers in my planner. That's where the address book system Levenger has comes in handy. You can easily add or remove just one address: perforated address book pages

-Kenny

sudden Levenger panic...

If you're reading this because of the subject line, jump right to paragraph 2.*

Yes, I really like the perforated address book pages (I think you can get the refills as separate cards). The only reason I didn't go for the address book itself is that I wanted a leather cover and the address book doesn't fit into the compact leather notebook.

* But here's the cause for my panic -- I just looked at the agenda description again and it says it fits into the compact jacket, but doesn't mention the notebook. I actually ordered 2 leather notebooks so I could I could see both colors then pick one, and of course will pay the corresponding shipping charges. Now I realize my whole leather-covered agenda plan may not work at all. I just sent them an email, but I don't know when they'll respond.

Can anyone tell me for sure if the compact agenda fits in the compact leather notebook?

Wait, don't panic...

The Levenger leather notebooks come with leather covers and are standalone products. They won't fit into the Circa Zip Folio or the Circa Leather Jacket. The folio and jacket are meant to take the plastic cover notebooks or agendas. I'm pretty sure the agenda will fit into the leather jacket.

Here's the description for the Compact Agenda:
Circa-to-go: the compact day planner
Our compact-size Circa agenda fits in smaller spaces so you can take it more places. It travels well in a workbag, on the car seat or on a walk.
Offers daily, weekly and monthly planning calendars
Each week is on a two-page spread
Holds pages from a compact-size Circa notebook to provide more note-taking space for appointments and meetings
Durable, 60-lb. white paper is three times the weight of most office-supply varieties
Translucent plastic cover
**Fits inside the compact-size leather Circa Jacket (sold separately)**
4½"W x¾"D x 7"H

If you like the leather notebooks, you could just transfer the agenda or address pages into one of them and you'd have a leather covered agenda/address book.

But, if you find that what you ordered isn't what you want, you should contact Ryan Rasmussen, who works for Levenger and would be able to help you. Not to worry. Levenger customer service is outstanding.

Walter

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On designing the

On designing the templates: you shouldn't need years of training or expensive software. You could start with the OpenOffice template kit (available on this site) and OpenOffice (free software) and just start messing with it. Some people use Adobe Acrobat to create PDF's (a bit expensive - a couple hundred bucks).

Ha. It sounds so simple. But to those of us who have little-to-no training (I still use DOS-based software whenever possible, "exit to DOS prompt" is my favoring Windows command) messing with it produces, well, a mess. I tried for a couple of days using the OpenOffice template kit, maybe 4 hours each day, and ended up with some text, some lines, a box or two and they all overlapped, ran off the page, didn't go where I wanted them to, etc. More time might help but sometimes, time just isn't available.

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template design

Hmmm... only the first part of my message showed up. Interesting.

Anyway, what I wrote that didn't show up is that I messed around with the OO templates and ended up with a mess. After spending about 4 hours a day for a few days in a row I ended up with some text, some lines, and some boxes randomly scattered on the page, ranging outside of the print area, etc. So, for those of us who stil prefer a DOS environment, it's not as easy as it sounds.

(@emoore)

It didnt show because of the "snip" tags...

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LiveCycle by name and nature...

By the sounds of it Elizabeth, you have had more luck with OpenOffice than me, I was box less :O

I also tried building a form with the trial versions of Adobe Acrobat Pro and LiveCycle Designer with little success. There is one thing in LiveCycle favour however,when it crashes (five times in three hours on my machine) it does not Blue Screen of Death my system. :/

Tried Inkscape ?

Link
Inkscape is an Open Source vector graphics editor, with capabilities similar to Illustrator, Freehand, CorelDraw, or Xara X using the W3C standard Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) file format.
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I love Inkscape too, and

I love Inkscape too, and have used it to create some templates. I taught my self to use it, for creating diagrams for my research, and now I can't live without it. I found it far easier to use than Illustrator, at least for the simple purposes I had, and it exports in a variety of formats, including PDF.

Downloading now...

Thank you Ygor, Inkscape looks just right for my needs. :)

Kudos to Irian for Inkscape

Irian mentioned it in another thread and I looked at it.
I believe it has serious possibilities.
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OpenOffice.org and PDFs

OpenOffice[.org] (free software) ... to create PDF's

Current versions of OpenOffice.org (sic) can create PDFs too --- if you have GhostScript, also available as open source software, installed ---

Adobe Acrobat (a bit expensive - a couple hundred bucks).

so no need for expensive extra software ... unless you want to use high compression in the resultant PDF file.

free PDF creation software

Well, I guess the big advantage of Acrobat was it allows you to directly edit PDF's. If everyone is creating templates in some other program and then converting to PDF, that opens up some other options.

OpenOffice allows you to export directly to PDF format. Macs of course allow you to "Print" to a PDF file. PDF Creator adds a similar function to Windows.

I can't remember for sure if Linux has a tool that does that, but I believe most Linux programs allow you to "Print" to a PostScript file in a similar way.

-Kenny

Editing PDFs

Well, I guess the big advantage of Acrobat was it allows you to directly edit PDF's.

The open source graphics utility The GIMP (or GIMPshop for those wanting a version mimicing PhotoShop keystrokes) will also allow some editing of PDFs.

If everyone is creating templates in some other program and then converting to PDF, that opens up some other options.

PDF is as a final form file format --- basically meant to be sent direct to a printer --- so any editing one can do on the file content is highly restricted. And no one in their right mind would do whole-scale editing in a production situation. Better to go back to the original document where the content will have structure than try to hack around with what are really dots on a page.

... most Linux programs allow you to "Print" to a PostScript file in a similar way.

Yes they do, as do most Windoze programs. And we Linux users, plus the savvy Windozers, will have GhostScript installed to process that PostScript into PDF.

While Adobe would have the market think otherwise PDF is actually just a highly restricted version of PostScript --- one of the reasons that GhostScript as an non-Adobe product can process both PostScript and PDF files with the same functions. Sure there are a few things that PDF (Acrobat Reader in fact) can do that PostScript alone can't but those things shutter the intended final form purpose of PDF. And are in any case just a variation of that old Irish joke --- you can't start from here.

Oh and for those looking for DTP ..

In addition to OpenOffice.org, as an open source alternative to Microsoft Office, anyone looking for a DTP package should look at Scribus --- yet another open source product. Scribus can generate PDF/X files directly which can be sent to a print shop for production and rednering of the final document.