Staples pulling Rollabind?

was at Staples today and all the Rollabind notebooks were gone. asked when they were getting more in stock and the manager said they were sending them BACK! said they were boxed up and ready to go. anyone know anything about this? why? I WANTED TO BUY ANOTHER ONE!

mdr

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I would send them back

They were scruffy looking.

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Where are you?

My staples here in Philadelphia, PA still had some at lunchtime yesterday. I agree with ygor, they look bad. If they haven't sent them back yet, they should! I went to a few staples in the area wanting to buy a few books and could only find one that looked acceptable enough to part with my $10. The paper is OK, but if you spring for a Levenger punch, you're better off making your own.

Columbus, Ohio

I've heard the discussion come up earlier that Staples is no longer selling the Rollabind products. Does anyone know how the quality of Rollabind products from their website compares? I hope it is a lot better! The desktop punch is definitely high quality.

I'm in Columbus Ohio. Last time I was in Staples was probably a couple weeks ago. When I was in there, they had the Rollabind products prominently on display in the middle of the store. It was almost like a two sided version of those new release DVD stand up display. Maybe they were trying to get rid of any remaining stock that was in good shape and then sending the rest back? I was considering buying some more paper, but I've got a punch now. I don't think I'd buy any more of their notebooks now that I've got a couple sets of Levenger Circa rings & covers.

-Kenny

:(

I really wanted the faux leather junior sized one :* (

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Not unless you are a nerf herder...

...scruffy.
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who you calling scruffy?

Hey! Who are you calling scruffy?

-Kenny

Who has a Junior size faux Rollabind notebook. And sadly a letter and junior size fabric one too.

spare?

any chance you picked up a spare faux leather junior that you may be willing to part with? :D

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sure

I'd definitely be willing to part with the Junior size faux leather. Now that I've got enough goodies from Levenger :-) I've used a few pages of it, but otherwise it is still in pretty good shape.

-Kenny

aye

The Rolla products are no longer available from their online stores either... They did not say anything about getting them back either :(

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An excuse to go to Staples

Philly must be behind the times. Now I have an excuse to go on an expedition to Staples to see if our local ones packed them up yet. Who am I kidding, I never need an excuse to go to Staples...

Dallas - no rollabind

they did have the paper still out for sale - but no binders. I got a black suede leather one for $5.99 last week. it's not Levenger's but it also isn't $40!

Watford --- no Rollabind

This morning I happened to be in Watford (you know the place, major soccer club once owned by Elton John) so popped into their branch of Staples. No Rollabind stuff on the shelves. :-( Last time I was in there, 12+ months, they had a range of Rolla products but I wasn't interested then.

Columbus, Ohio Rollabind update

I went to the Staples nearest me during lunch break. They still had a few packs of Rollabind paper refills left but there was a big empty space on the shelf where the notebooks used to be. I asked one of the employees there if they had the notebooks and he went to the binder section and picked out a 3 ring binder in Junior size, looked at the paper and said "No, we don't have 6 ring binders in this size." I had to show him the picture on the refill pack and explain what it was. He went in the back to check and said they were all gone.

I wonder if part of the problem is they are just different enough to confuse people? It's not 3 ring, 6 ring, 7 ring, spiral bound, legal pad, composition book or anything else anyone is used to.

-Kenny

THEY'RE COMING BACK!!!!!

emailed Staples and here is what they sent about this:

"We were having some quality problems with a few products. That is why we are taking them out of stores. In around 60 days they will be back with upgraded and more resistant covers. I hope this will make the product even better."

Yea!

mdr

ooo

that should be right around back to school time...

Kenny... I may need you to put on some football pads and fight for some new Rolla products during one of your lunch break trips to Staples ;P lol

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that is great news!

That is great news. I'm always glad to see better office supplies coming in the near future.

Hopefully they will have the new stuff available on their website - you only need to order $50 for free shipping ;-)

There is also a Target right next door to Staples, so if they have Rollabind back in stock for back-to-school I could stop by there too. My mistake - there's actually a Barnes & Noble right between Target and Staples. And a World Market next door - the only place around here that still carries Penguin Mints (think caffeinated Altoids!) All kinds of places there that are dangerous for my wallet.

That block of stores would be an easy walk (10 minutes or so) if it weren't for the 5 lanes of busy traffic that I have to cross. I'm not a big fan of playing real-life Frogger. I've only done that once. I stick to driving there now.

-Kenny

Maybe this has something to do with it?

Check this out:

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-flsdce/case_no-9:2006...

Maybe this has something to do with Staples pulling Rollabind?

Can't read it

Hi.

Couldn't follow the link, it gave an error. What did it say?

shris

Cannot get in either, but...

I got as far as this:
Levenger Company v. Feldman et al Patent Infringement

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Would be odd

That case is between Levenger and some group of people. For Staples to pull Rollabind products the case would have to brought against them rather than Levenger over Circa.

Like others I get as far as seeing the case information (Levenger v Feldman et al but can't access --- aka not prepared to pay for --- the actual info.

error

I get an error when trying to follow the link. It would be interesting to hear what is going on... I was under the impression that Levenger licensed the Circa system from Rollabind.

-Kenny

Patent

I doubt this has anything to do with Staples.

I couldn't find anything using the case name: Feldman, J., Czukerberg, S., "Notebook System", US Patent 5553959, Sept. 1996.

But I did look up the patent number. Here are two links to the US Patent Office.

Link

Link

(Sorry, I don't know how to make shrinky links).

That's as far as I could take the info I had. Unfortunately, I can't find anything on the Appeals/Enforcement page. Perhaps someone else knows how to research patent issues.

I researched a copyright issue once and ran into the same problem. I found a couple of basic documents very quickly, but it took a lot of digging to find the case I was interested in.

My best guess is that whatever arrangement or agreement that Levenger has with Rollabind gives them the right of enforcement. Or it might have been delegated to them.

Interestingly, his patent application seems to date back to 1996. It's odd that anyone would wait that long to enforce the patent. There must be more to the story; I can't believe the time frame for enforcement hadn't run out. You can see the applicant acknowledges similar existing notebook systems, including an Italian one, but he claims to improve on them.

Again, I doubt this has anything to do with Rollabind. Except perhaps to the extent that if Rollabind is in the middle of being bought that Levenger may be in a better position to enforce the patent.
~Cath

Levenger v. Rollabind !!?

If anyone has large Rollabind discs, look at them. I have a jumbo in my hand. On one side, it says "Rollabind Binding Syatem" and on the other side, it says "Pat No. 5,553,959"

That is the patent number referenced above !!

Could Levenger have stepped "outside the box" of there licensing agreement ? HEY RYAN !! Do you have any news ? And are you allowed to talk about it ?
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Levenger Patent

Ooops, I see a typo in my previous post. Towards the end I meant to iterate that I didn't think this case had anything to do with Staples but instead of Staples I said Rollabind. Of course, this very likely has something to do with Rollabind.

I dug a little deeper and found this 1998 Madeleine Vogel patent application (number D404762) with Levenger as the Assignee. Note that it seems to include some drawings, which I couldn't open.

Link

From the info Ygor just posted I'm speculating that Feldman sold his Patent/Improvement to Rollabind. That wouldn't completely explain why Levenger is suing Feldman. Unless Feldman is in violation of his agreement with Rollabind and Levenger is somehow authorized to defend the patent.

Is there an attorney out there that could look the case up on LexisNexis or Westlaw?

Inquiring minds want to know. This could shed some light on how &/or why Levenger (Circa) seems to be better than Rollabind.
~Cath

Patently Patent

With a little bit of Internet wizardy (i.e. Google is your friend) I managed to find much the same info as Cath did in her reply. According to freepatentsonline there is a patent for a Notebook system filed by Feldman and Czukerberg in 1995 (published 1996). That freepatentsonline link will show you the "claims" of the patent and reading between the patent jargonese describes the Rollabind system.

There is a second patent for a Combined notebook/file system by Greenberg and Feldman filed in 1998 (published 1999). This second one is listed as being formally assigned to Rollabind.

Comment to ygor regarding the jumbo Levenger disk. The patent "claims" for 5,553,959 don't appear to mention a disk diameter. Would need a copy of the official patent document and the assistance of a specialist patent lawyer to decide that one though.

This Medeleine Vogel patent can probably also be rad at freepatentsonline. (But I haven't verified that.)

Keeping mum

Friends, let's remember that any sort of lawsuit is unlikely to elicit any sort of discussion from the involved parties within a public forum.

While I'm as curious as anybody about what this all means, we shouldn't expect Ryan or anyone else to say anything about it, and we should respect their obligation to keep silent.

Of course, this doesn't mean that we can't discuss the matter, only that we shouldn't put our friendly neighbourhood Levenger rep in any awkward position by putting him on the spot.

all my best,
dj

Errors and err...

I now get an error with that link too.

However, a little digging around (Google is your friend) I discovered a patent for a Notebook system in the names of Feldman and Czukerberg filed in 1995 (publihsed 1996). A further search at freepatentsonline revealed that Feldman and Greenberg filed a second patent for a Combined notebook/file system that they then assigned to Rollabind (in 1998). (No "claims" are shown for this second one.)

This is all very odd. Rollabind is the assingee of the patent/patents; Levenger licenses the patented idea from Rollabind but the Feldman et all are pursuing Levenger in the courts. All very strange. Wouldn't make sense for Staples for remove Rollabind products from their shelves because of the legal action though. Rollabind has the patent/patents.

Lawsuit Update

I was just looking around and found that the lawsuit has been (re)filed in Massachusetts on 12/4/08. I'd love to know who has allegedly defrauded whom. According to an order against partial summary judgment in the earlier case, Levenger stopped paying Feldman royalties several months before complaining that there were issues with the patents. Will be interesting to see what happens. I'm not normally interested in civil litigation, but this case is worth watching. I'm invested in Levenger products by several 100s of $$$$, but if they're found to be in the wrong, I'll switch to Myndology or Rollabind. I really don't like big companies steamrolling over smaller ones.

References and Links, please !!

Please do not drop such info-bombs without backup !

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Info-Bomb?

Hardly seems like much of a bomb to me, but here's a link.
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-madce/case_no-1:2008m...
It was right there to be googled.

The Link

I tried to give a link to the suit, but for some reason the link won't post. Just google Levenger v. Feldman.

Another Link

And here's the link that connects to the Order in the motion for partial summary judgment which discusses to some extent the merits of the case that was filed in Florida.
Seems that a moderator decided my post on the lawsuit was spam and cut off my ability to post. I won't bother anymore after posting this link.
http://www.websupp.com/data/SDFL/9:06-cv-81054-115-SDFL.pdf

Not a moderator

I doubt it was a moderato. DIYP has some pretty strong automated anti-spam measures in place. I'm sure your post got caught up in those. Ygor or somebody else will get to it, I'm sure. Patience is the key to the game here. :-)

-Jon

Was it you posting Anonymous, Deb ?

The spam filters are nastier toward a poster who is not logged in.
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Yes

Me before I set up an account. I'm now out from under the umbra of anonymousness.

Another Levenger Lawsuit

As some folks seem interested in these, I found that Levenger filed a lawsuit against Renaissance Art, LLC on August 27, 2008. Here's the link to the bloomberg.com
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&refer=con...
The Levenger story is a little more than halfway down the column.

Lawsuit = Bites!

I really do not agree with Levenger. Yes, RA is making a "Case" to hold the Circa, but they are not making Circa Products. That is like Franklin Covey saying no one else can make a binder that has as many rings as we do? Is that possible for them to do that? I do not know anything about copyrights or legal issues, so this is just my opinion on the matter. I guess I am not suprised by Levenger, but I feel really, really bad for RA!!!!
Arthur - I am behind you 100% :) Best of Luck!

Who, besides me, lives in the DC area ?

Steve Leven, Levenger's CEO will be at the Tyson's Corner Levenger store tomorrow.
I'm going to try to go.
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I Do, Also

And would join you, but I'll be in New York.

I WISH I could go!

Man oh man I would be there....
I love Levenger products but these lawsuits are getting to be too much! Is sad that Levenger has to sue other companies when they charge close to 200$ for a leather agends?? Maybe if they had more of a selection than the same stuff they have had and lowered their prices they would make more money. Just think of the profit margin on their items....sell them a little cheaper and sell more...make more money. Renaissance Art I am behind you 100% and feel you have every right to make those modular systems. Good luck....
Whats next....will we all get sued for making our own circa notebooks??
Or maybe for having printable forms similar to theirs.....

It's not making them

I'd wager that the issue really is the use of the term "Circa". If that is a registered trademark, then they have to actively protect that trademark or else someone else can come along. I'm sure that Levenger isn't daft enough to think they can keep people from making covers that fit their books.

Chances are good if the Ren Art had simply said, "Circa is a registered trademark of Levenger." All would be well.

That's how I read it

Less "malice" and more "defense of trademarks." Renaissance does come right out and call them "Circa/Rollabind" covers on their site:

http://www.renaissance-art.com/catg141/categoryMaster.aspx

Better choice may have been "Wraparound covers for disc-binding systems" with the legal disclaimers at the bottom.

From the other lawsuit, it sounds like Circa is a big moneymaker for Levenger, so I'm sure they don't want to see the brand name diluted, which means they need to swoop in with lawyers at the first sign of infringement. Sad, but true.

Than why isn't Rollabind suing?

My understanding is that Rollabind owns the patent and lets Levenger use it...so shouldn't Rollabind be the ones suing if they feel someone is violating their their patent?

You need to read the papers

Part of the ruling is that Rollabind's patents are invalid.
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Also...

Rollabind doesn't make leather covers, but Levenger does. So there's a double impetus for Lev to try and get Renaissance to C&D.

I dood it !!

I met Levenger CEO Steve Leven
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Info, please!

Ygor - you, of all people, are anti-info-bomb!! How was it??? Did you confess your levenger love? Was he speaking in general or was it a quick handshake and on your way? I would have needed a confessional (it's been four weeks since my last purchase but only because i'm unemployed....).

I wanted to see if anyone cared :)

Just teasing ! >:D

He is a very nice person, friendly and easy to talk to. We talked about several different things.

I asked about Rollabind and his responses seemed a bit guarded. He said that it is public info that Rollabind's patents are now invalid.

I said that one fear of mine was that the Circa product line might disappear. He said that is very definately would not. I went on to say that I think there is a market for lower priced/quality products -- a la Rollabind in Staples and such -- that should be addressed. He agreed.

I mentioned Ryan and how we miss him. I said that it would be nice to have someone from Levenger as an open participant of DIY-Planner. He seemed to be agreeable to the idea, but made to promises.

That's about it. I bought a set of the nickel discs and went home after that.
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Spill!!!

What did you ask him? What did he say? Kindly supply a verbatim transcript, or one as close to verbatim as possible.

Any spills must be mopped up

>:D
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Glad I dumped Levenger!

This is unacceptable bullying behavior on the part of Levenger. It's corporate ethics of this sort which make me happy I stopped using Levenger products! Hang in there, Arthur, and GOOD LUCK!!

Staples pulling Rollabind??!!!

Interesting to see the post today. Yesterday, after having not found a Rollabind at any Staples stores here in Seattle, I called Rollabind and asked what was going on? The young woman I spoke to said that they are making some changes and adjustments to the product and that it will be back in stores the beginning of May 2007. So now I must be patient and wait in order to get my hands on one. I suspect the changes they are making have a lot to do with postings on this site and answering some of the critiques of the product found here. All for the better I am sure.

wsm

Rollaspotting

My local Staples is remodeling, so the state of their shelves and supplies are in flux. While "casually" (read: obsessively) wandering through their notebooks section, I spotted three things:

1) A Classic Rolla refill pack, now in my possession. Looks like this is one of last-year's items, probably found on a shelf in the back. Punching the product number into Google turns up some old cached results on Staples.com, but nothing fresh.

2) A letter-size refill pack. Still there, so lonely! Maybe not for long. :-)

3) A stockers card (?) showing how and where products are to be placed on the empty shelves. The card shows where the notebooks will go, as well as more refills. The shelves and card had prices on them (which I naturally did not copy down *sigh*) stating "Rolla" so I'd say they're on the way back for sure.

another trip to Staples (Rollabind refills in Columbus, Ohio)

I finally made a trip to the Staples closest to my home. They have a display up between the copy center and first shelf with Rollabind refills. There's only 2 or 3 letter size and maybe 4 Junior size refills. Funny thing - the notebook aisle has a fancy decoration in the middle showing all different kinds of notebooks. This includes brown and black faux leather Rollabind and blue & red fabric Rollabind notebooks.

I also went and checked out the presentation covers. There were really thin ones available in packs of 25 or single sheets up front. There were also deluxe covers that looked like a frosted translucent look similar to the Levenger covers. The deluxe ones were only available in packs of 25 and I couldn't tell how thick they were or the quality with them in the packaging. I decided not to buy it because I'm not a big fan of spending $18 for something I'm not sure I'll like.

-Kenny

Ohio is ahead of California :-(

Well, I stopped by Staples on the way in this morning and jotted down the Rolla price tags from their "Executive Notebooks" section. No actual binders or covers, just refills. Grr. Here's the list for anyone else who's Rolla-obsessed.


3-Tab Poly Dividers, Junior #672757 $2.99
3-Tab Poly Divider, Letter #672760 $3.99
Wide Filler (100 sheets?) #672765 $3.99
Project/To Do Filler, Letter #672784 $4.99
5.5"x8" Refill #643232 $3.99
Letter Refill #643233 $4.99

Ohio may be behind...

I think Ohio might actually be behind California. I've never seen any Rollabind refills around here except for the regular Letter and 5.5"x8" refills. It really looks like the idea that local Staples stores have is to put all the Rollabind stock in a nice display to sell it as fast as possible without lowering the price of the items.

Hopefully we'll see some new stuff coming in the next few months.

In related news for Circa/Rollabind addicts, I went to check out Levenger's site today and saw that Grapemist and Lime products are available. Not colors I'm interested in. The EverGreen zipper binders are still calling my name, especially with this addition "Free shipping on Circa. Offer good through May 13, 2007."

-Kenny

Rolla returns (later update)

A Staples just opened up here in State College, PA a few weeks ago. My wife and I went in just to smell the blissful scent of new office supplies, and they have a full block in the notebook aisle devoted to Rolla items. I would have bought some right then, but they weren't selling the punch in store. Still nothing on the web site, but this new store's initial stock carried a whole slew of them, including leather covers, cloth covers, refills of various types and sizes and punched dividers.

Grab them while you can

The "leather" covers are worth grabbing for the price. Forget the bookcloth ones. Too scruffy.

You will not see these products in the Staples web site. When I had a store employee look it up for me, he could get at it thru the inventory listings, but he said they were coded such that they would not appear on the web.

Staples also does not sell the punch or the discs.
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Rollabind is back en force

I've recently had email conversations with Jack Feldman, the founder of Rollabind. He assures me that they will have more products (including the punches) in Staples stores by early next year (2008). Our local Seattle store has a good selection of covers and refill packets.

FYI, I bought the Levenger punch, as it is actually a bit cheaper than the Rollabind one. Very nice, heavy punch. Levenger also sells blank, junior size refill sheets (60lb) that are pre-punched (at about .10 a sheet).

Since I am punching my own planner pages, my biggest challenge (and even Jack had no answer) is finding blank, un-punched refill paper that is exactly 8.25" x 5.5". Any suggestions where I could find that would be appreciated, although the "have Kinkos cut it" option is looking better every day.

Fair Winds,
Dennis

Direct Jack to this site, please

We would have lots of (potentially) positive feedback for him.
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Kinko's option

Hi, Dennis,

The 'Kinko's Option' is the one I've always used. Quick and cheap - hard to beat that.

Finally picked up some Rollabind

I was at a conference this past weekend and was in a city where there is a Staples (oh, how I hate living in the middle of nowhere sometimes) and found the Rollabind section. They had a nice selection of different sized notebooks and fillers. I picked up two letter size. I tried several before I picked my two though. I like the red fabric covered one a lot but with many of the red ones the cover stuck after turning to the back once. I finally found one that would turn back smoothly. I love it.

just a hint

Try finding a print shop to do the cutting... often the smaller shops like I worked at are overlooked but cheaper and more personable. You may even be able to get cardstock scraps for little to no money :D

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Lots of Rolla @Staples in NYC awa paper cutting

I haven't been at this site for some time. Luckily I did catch of couple of comments about the possibility of Rolla @Staples a few of months ago. So a few weeks ago I stumbled upon some Rolla items at the Staples near me. I bought all the good ones that were left.

Eventually I remembered to check out the Staples near my job. Not quite Nirvana; as has been said repeatedly, you do have to check each book for flaws. But the ones I saw were mostly in good shape. And different colors: taupe, red (crimson, not orangey), blue (...um, a darker blue but not too dead and not too bright), and green (sort of hunter green but again, a color with a little life in it).

The lines on the paper are waaaay too dark. I don't know what they were thinking--if you write on that paper, the lines will drown out your writing. Unless you write with a black Flair. You COULD write with a black Flair--the paper is heavier than regular loose leaf, so that's good. But those lines + black Flair writing = impossible to read. It might work as art.

Grey lines were one the things that attracted me to Levenger paper stuff in the first place. I'll use the Rolla paper as backing, when I glue pictures or fabric samples into a notebook for redecorating. For example.

----Now that I write all this, I realize somebody else has probably written a much fuller update elsewhere on the site.

Oh well.-------

The remainder of the update in brief: they have plastic dividers, 3-cut, not the most sophisticated colors but they're OK. That and filler paper were the main supplies at the time.

The notebooks come with a plastic slash pocket, black, handy, and one black tab divider. Also handy. I don't understand the (also included) business-card-holder sheet--not so sturdy. Maybe it's for business cards or the notes some of us make to ourselves on old business cards?

Red and blue books come with silver disks, and the taupe and green have black disks. I do wish they sold replacements so you can swap disc colors and, as has also been said, SIZE.

Nevertheless. After years of Circa addiction, but not able to afford the real thing for all my information design needs,.... I am thrilled. Rolla/Staples is a reasonable alternative, very D*I*Y-able, & available for immediate use when they're in stock. I talked to the clerks and apparently the shelves are empty within a day or two after each shipment, except for some faulty 8.5x11s.

I have the Levenger punch, so all I need are lotsa disks.

I got much paper cut at Staples. Locally it's $1 per cut per 200 sheets.

Will now search for info from others who have been around more than me.

rollabind letter size notebooks

I found a few rollabind letter size notebooks at Staples (Dallas area) today--no refill paper, just notebooks! $12 can't be beat for faux-leather with paper and dividers (my leather Levenger was over $100!).

still none online

none online, and of course no staples in my area. I wonder why they would have them in stores and not online?

I was there today and saw only Junior sized

Refills and tabs. no more notebooks, no letter sized anything. To me, looked like it was on the way out?

Low volume

Hi.

At my staples, I see them sell out and refill. Sometimes there's just letter, sometimes letter and junior, sometimes no faux leather, sometimes only refills.

It seems to me they only ever buy about six of anything at a time, and they sell completely out before they get the next six. Kinda weird, but that's what it seems like.

My staples gets the notebooks, tabs, refills..I wish I liked 'em better, but they're just not as nice and pretty as the expensive ones.

shris

They are not serious about selling it

Back when they first appeared, I asked why the SKU numbers would not show up on the web site. I was told the stuff is considered seasonal.
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Rollabind

I ordered a Rollabind product online at their website on January 6 of this year...a whopping $21 order. But I never received it. And even though they charged my corporate credit card, I've never been issued a credit, despite 3 emails and 2 phone calls to the company. Their customer service is a JOKE. I'm not surprised in the least that Staples is ending their relationship with Rollabind.

I've been having the same

I've been having the same problem with an order place in March 2009. They fulfilled part of the order, but I'm still waiting on one binder and some tabs. I've called the company twice and have gotten vague responses about my order being in transit and their system being down. Did you ever have any luck in getting your order fulfilled or your payment refunded?

Rollabind notebooks are back at my local staples

Rollabind notebooks are back at my local staples, and they looks quite different from before Christmas. The covers are not exactly faux letter, more like cheap vinyl, a bit of a disappointment, they are cheap looking (can see some of the dried glue on the edges of some of them).
The inside of the covers are flat, which I prefer over the Franklin pockets on the back. Some plastic dividers with pockets are included, a much better idea.

Now for two major pluses: $5.95 for the classic size (a great deal in spite of the above caveats), and, smooth disks! The Rollabind printing was missing from the inside of the disk, a shiny plain surface is there instead. The result is super smooth page turning, just what I might expect from the metal disks, but those are black plastic. Really makes me wish all of my Rolla disks had the same shiny smooth surface. My Franklyn is a pain to turn at times. Maybe I can find a way to polish out the branding and rough surface out of mine, with some drill and a polishing bit perhaps (don’t have one at the moment).

At the price, it is tempting to spring for one just in case. But I have too much office supply junk laying around, so I will resist. For now . . .