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 <title>I have finally developed a system!</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Below is how I am now doing my planning.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Weekly:&lt;br /&gt;
1. Review Mission &amp;amp; Vision Statement&lt;br /&gt;
2. Review Last Week&lt;br /&gt;
     a. What goals were achieved&lt;br /&gt;
     b. What were the challenges&lt;br /&gt;
3. Decide Roles to act on for the week&lt;br /&gt;
4. Identify Physical, Mental, Spiritual, &amp;amp; Social areas to improve&lt;br /&gt;
5. Process Inbox&lt;br /&gt;
     a. Loose papers&lt;br /&gt;
     b. Notes&lt;br /&gt;
     c. Head&lt;br /&gt;
     d. Lists&lt;br /&gt;
     e. Calendars&lt;br /&gt;
     f. Next Actions&lt;br /&gt;
Daily:&lt;br /&gt;
1. Preview Hardscape&lt;br /&gt;
2. Prioritize Next Actions in each context.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Note:  Make sure that you include in your &quot;mundane&quot; projects a few related to your Goals, Mission, and Vision.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:52:05 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>jordanjm</dc:creator>
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 <title>Copying Recurring Tasks</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;The part I always find tricky with a paper based system is the recurring tasks. I hate rewriting the same stuff over and over, so I have to find a way to include rescheduling and recurring without rewriting.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For groups of tasks, I often use a sort of &quot;category name&quot; and just write down the group as a whole, rather than each individual task.  Also, for recurring tasks, abbreviations can be useful. :)  If you really complete the tasks that often, the abbreviations will not be hard to remember.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Be blessed!&lt;br /&gt;
~Rachel &amp;lt;&amp;gt;&lt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 22:52:33 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Rachel R.</dc:creator>
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 <title>Copying recurring work</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;The part I always find tricky with a paper based system is the recurring tasks. I hate rewriting the same stuff over and over, so I have to find a way to include rescheduling and recurring without rewriting.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For paper planning I like either&lt;br /&gt;
a. writing my recurring tasks on the relevant templates and then photocopying the set, so my templates always have the same set of fundamental &quot;tasks that won&#039;t die&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
or&lt;br /&gt;
b. using powerpoint to add the items to the templates, as text boxes floating over the PDF.&lt;br /&gt;
This is very handy for my fobster as I can&#039;t write neatly in 6 point :)&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:07:04 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Katrina</dc:creator>
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 <title>Well, I tried to answer you...</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I tried to answer you but my message was &quot;flagged as potential spam&quot; to be &quot;not displayed until it can be reviewed by a site administrator&quot;. So, um, check back later I guess. (If this one refuses to post as well, I&#039;m going to give up and leave for a while...)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have no idea what in my prior message could have triggered the filter (I didn&#039;t recomend any products, for instance) but it did.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[Sorry about that. The spam filter is zealous about such things, and for some reason it got a false positive. Now de-spammed. -- DJ]&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:19:42 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>LindaJeanne</dc:creator>
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 <title>I think they work best used together....</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve found that they work best used together.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I do my GTD &quot;weekly review&quot;, I also do a Covey-esque plan of my coming week. But of course my week never works out that way, so I use the GTD system to improvise-- I have the plan, but I also look at my context-lists and decided whether the plan is still the best path to follow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Same on a daily basis: at the beginning of the day, I plan out prioritized tasks in a Covey-esque fashion to use as a baseline, but then spend the rest of the day improvising GTD style.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that both the &quot;top down&quot; and the &quot;bottom up&quot; are unrealistic on their own. It&#039;s unrealistic for most of us to be able to plan the week (or even the day) out in advance and stick to it, but it&#039;s also unrealistic to assume that a total bottom-up approach will always get the most important things done when they need to be.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:17:00 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>LindaJeanne</dc:creator>
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 <title>scheduling in both directions</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems to me that the two different planning systems represent different approaches. I am a user of MS Project, which uses the concepts of scheduling based on your start date, or scheduling based on your finish date. It seems to me that GTD is more &quot;Schedule from the start date&quot; and Covey is more &quot;Schedule from the finish date&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is to say, GTD is &#039;start with now and everything you have to do now&#039; and Covey is &#039;start with where you want to go and when you want to get there&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I like both approaches for different things. When someone else is directing my work (such as my boss), I like the GTD approach. You take all the stuff he&#039;s given you to do, and you list it all out and go through them one by one. When I direct my own work (such as at home with the housework), I like the Covey approach. I list out all the elements of my plan and decide when they will be done and schedule them appropriately.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The common element would be &#039;listing it all out&#039;. :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would say that when you have the time to do top-down, you should try it. And when you just get a barrage of stuff to do from someone else (honey-dos, boss-dos, etc.) then you have to have a way to handle the barrage sanely. GTD offers a good standard approach for that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The part I always find tricky with a paper based system is the recurring tasks. I hate rewriting the same stuff over and over, so I have to find a way to include rescheduling and recurring without rewriting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kristina&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:10:25 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>shris</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I have been reading Getting Things Done, and the 7 Habits Lately, and I was wondering has anyone found a way to do both forms of planning at once?  I have in mind the personal exploration of the Top Down Approach to start, followed by just listing out everything I need to do, and then using each month, week, day, doing an overview of them.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 00:08:45 -0400</pubDate>
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