DIY Planner - Learning To Love Vista - Comments

office 2007 bad experience

DucLy — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:49:53 -0500

Oh I don't know much about Vista...
But I do know that office 2007 has caused me a lot of hassle at work as nothing is compatible. I try printing labels for envelopes and it didn't even work.
I do like the OneNote 2007 though. That's one heck of an app.

Duc Ly

Gloat, gloat, gloat...

ygor — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:57:38 -0500

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-haaaaaa !!
Slashdot: Microsoft Pulls Vista SP1 Update
>:D
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

He heh

steves — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 05:45:30 -0500

Steve Sharam
www.whenrealityknocks.com

And the fun continues...

ygor — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:01:39 -0500

Britain Advises Against Vista, Office 2007 for Schools

And there are new Get-A-Mac ads
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

one Linux trick

jonglass — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 04:18:03 -0500

I like the Linux trick of hilighting text, and then middle-clicking to paste it wherever you want. I still haven't found a way to do this on the Mac. But I like it... Of course, I use middle-click for other things on my Mac, so it would probably be incompatible--but I still find myself wanting to do it--or even trying to do it on occasion...

-Jon

Mighty Mouse

breggol — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 01:28:33 -0500

You can also configure the Mighty Mouse to use a right click...

Yes, but

steves — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:01:10 -0500

FUD maybe, but this, I don't think, qualifies. A FUD, in my understanding, disseminates inaccurate information, whereas saying that Vista stinks, well, that seems pretty accurate to me.

Now, admittedly, I'm biased because I wrote the post, and I don't use a Windoze machine, except under protest, but I did sell them for a while and that was quite enough for me. No, I don't use Vista, but there are good reasons for that:P

Steve Sharam
www.whenrealityknocks.com

Another nail in the coffin / log on the fire...

ygor — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:08:33 -0500

PC World calls Vista The #1 Tech Disappointment of 2007

"When the fastest Vista notebook PC World has ever tested is an Apple MacBook Pro, there's something deeply wrong with the universe."

'Nuff said.

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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

I think you missed his point...

jonglass — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:19:05 -0500

He wasn't comparing Windows to Linux, but _both_ to OS X. ;-)

That means that both are the pocket diary to Mac OS X's full-feature planner. :-D

In this, I believe he is closer to the truth. Although I think your analogy is more correct in all points.

However, when it comes right down to it, each OS reflects the type of person that is attracted to it--people of a certain sort are attracted to each OS, and their devopment efforts reflect this, both because such developers tend to develop for their preferred platform, but also because apps that don't reflect the "ideals" of the particular platform, probably won't long survive.

A couple examples from your own experience. The truth is, Devon and Scrivener are both examples of the MacOS-think. Mac users tend to like their apps to be powerful, but simple, and tend to prefer simple over power, especially if by power they give up simplicity.

Some other excellent examples are the software by companies like Nisus, BeLight, Devon's efforts across the board. Oh, and the Apple apps like iWork or iLife. iTunes would be the universally used example, although I have no idea how iTunes works on Windows.

As to web apps, etc. I suppose that if one spends 90% or more of his time in a web browser, then the OS would seem insignificant--until you come to that 10% that you need your OS, like in your case, with Devon and Scrivener. That's what separates the men from the boys (pardon the expression) in OSs. However, in my case, I do relatively little in my browser, and find the software I use to be very critical. I could not do what I do as easily and as well as I do it on Windows or Linux. Everybody I know uses Windows, and I have known for years that it would never meet my needs (besides, I hate "fixing" my computer, and would rather simply work), however, this past spring, I discovered Ubuntu for the PowerPC, so decided to try to use Linux to do what I need. I was very happily surprised with how Ubuntu worked, but found it a tiny bit lacking, so tried a few more distributions, but, in the end, the more I tried to work with Linux, the more I found it lacking the tools I need, or providing sub-standard counterparts (for instance, compare Impress to Keynote--sorry! no comparison!!!) So, for me, until Linux can offer the same level and quality of experience, it cannot and will not replace OS X--although I'm still rooting for it. ;-)

(BTW, I have massively "enabled" my X11 side of OS X, and have a complete distro's-worth of software and can run entirely in KDE or Gnome--which is cool.)

-Jon

You forgot one

reepicheep — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:10:27 -0500

You can stay away from Windows because it crashes, or because you hate MS, or because you think it's ugly and you'd be right about all three. But to say that it isn't powerful enough or that the developer tools are insufficient is absurd.

You forgot the best reason to stay away from Windoze: it's security is fundamentally broken. What am I saying! Windows doesn't have any security. Hence Norton, McAfee, AVAST, AVG, ZoneAlarm, etc etc all trying to patch up the gaping holes in the facade.

Overstatement alert!

terceiro — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:13:05 -0500

I respectfully disagree. A pocket diary is vastly limited in comparison to the planner: less flexible, less spacious, and less powerful. But you can't say the same thing about Windows vs Linux. They feel different, and one is more stable, but there is nothing you can program in one that you can't program in the other. Nothing.

I've got cred, too. I rolled my first Linux kernel from a slackware distro in 1997-ish, and I still run it today (no, not the same kernel; I still run Linux). I understand how they work, but philosophical differences between Windows and Linux are like the differences between a Franklin-Covey planner and a D*I*Y Planner: one is closed-source and prettified (Look: motivational quotes! Look: bright colored buttons!) and the other is open and free. But with enough money, you can buy any addition you want to a Franklin-Covey system. It'll cost you, and you're stuck with the designs that FC provides, but you're still getting the same basic tools and templates you'll get from DIYP.

You can stay away from Windows because it crashes, or because you hate MS, or because you think it's ugly and you'd be right about all three. But to say that it isn't powerful enough or that the developer tools are insufficient is absurd.

The same? Of course they ...

reepicheep — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:59:43 -0500

Linux and Windows (of any variety) are the same as much as a pocket diary is the same as a planner. Surface features (in your example) such as a browser can make it look that they are identical but the moment one lifs the hood --- and as a computing scientist I've had plenty of opportunity to lift the hood on both --- they are so very very different; much like anyone who has used a pocket diary and then switches to a planner knows that the two things are so diametrically opposed.

Same? You bet.

terceiro — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:11:43 -0500

I'll bite: they are functionally the same, at least today in (almost) 2008.

I spend 90% of my time using a browser. If I'm using Firefox on Windows vs Firefox on Mac os X vs Firefox on Linux, what's the difference? I can install the same extensions and, in my case, even sync my bookmarks across the three. Because I do run all three: I run Mac OS X and Ubuntu on my Macbook and I use XP in my office on campus. All three use Firefox and the experience is virtually identical. What's the big deal?

There is one reason why I stick with Macs for my personal computers, and that's a couple of applications that I have come to love and rely upon (DEVONthink, in case you're wondering, together with Scrivener and Mellel and Bookends, it makes my dissertation happy). If I could find applications of equivalent quality on Linux, I'd jump ship immediately. Sadly, what I've found as replacements are only sad reflections of the original applications. I suspect that will change in the next few years.

Linux is not without frustration, but neither is any other operating system. And though I've used Apple products heavily and exclusively since 1981 (yes, I my Mac cred extends back before there were Macs, and I have never purchased a Windows machine, ever), the rate of improvement in the Linux user experience (and the explosion in viable web applications) leads me to suspect that my next purchase in 2009 or 2010 will likely run Linux primarily.

Nice link

ygor — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:31:20 -0500

I had almost forgotten about that collection of Microsoft-damning materials.
I enjoyed reading them again.
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

In the tradition

reepicheep — Sun, 9 Dec 2007 13:37:53 -0500

... a FUD article ...

Ah but that's so in the Microsoft tradition. Microsoft uses FUD tactics themselves. Check out their Halloween Documents. MickeySoft have even tried using the old IBM slogan of "no one ever got fired for buying ...", to which the appropriate response is "well they should have been".

Learning To Love Vista

steves — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:53:06 -0500

Good day all, Steve here, welcoming you to the start of the end of your week. So I was thinking about Windows Vista. I was not thinking good things. I work in an electronics store and we have a steady stream of people walking in the door threatening to bash their computers with an axe, because they can't get Vista to work properly. Usually, we suggest a sledgehammer.

It occurred to me that perhaps we're looking at this whole problem the wrong way. Maybe Vista isn't a terrible operating system that doesn't work right and is unbelievably slow and has a lot of useless features and won't play games or burn c.d.s and generally doesn't do a damned thing. Verily, it honketh mightily. Here's an idea: maybe Vista's simply a tool for people who enjoy pain in their lives. Hmm…

For, truly, Vista has brought pain into our lives. It's a veritable electronic masochism service. Except for me. I use a Mac. I get a feeling of smug self-satisfaction and justification for having spent three times as much money for my computer when I see people who've spent six days trying to send an email. But, as far as I can tell, for just about everyone who bought a new computer with Vista, it's been nothing but pain. A friend of mine who works in IT was very excited that his brand new computer had Vista. Shortly after, he developed a minor problem with his internet connection and attempted to fix it. His computer was subsequently sucked down into the sixth level of the Inferno. His current whereabouts are unknown.

Microsoft has taken masochism into the main stream. Until now, masochism was mostly confined to stressed-out businessmen who would pay an angry woman to beat them with a duck while singing show tunes, but Vista has brought pain into our schools and living rooms. The shrieks of pain and suffering can be heard across the land.

See what I'm saying? Maybe all that's needed here is a change in perspective. If we stop getting angry at Vista for not working and instead embrace it for the pain it brings into our lives, then we're in business.

Of course, if you don't want more pain in your life, or, um, if you actually want to do something with your computer…then this doesn't help at all. In fact, it's bordering on delusional. Anybody have any better suggestions? Geez, I need sleep.

Until next time keep your pen on the page and Vista optimizer caused system blockage. Need assistance.

Steve Sharam
www.whenrealityknocks.com

D*I*Y Planner - Learning To Love Vista - Comments

office 2007 bad experience

Gloat, gloat, gloat...

He heh

And the fun continues...

one Linux trick

Mighty Mouse

Yes, but

Another nail in the coffin / log on the fire...

I think you missed his point...

You forgot one

Overstatement alert!

The same? Of course they ...

Same? You bet.

Nice link

In the tradition

Learning To Love Vista

DIY Planner - Learning To Love Vista - Comments