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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry to bring up an old thread, but somehow, Google keeps finding this, and I keep getting requests to buy more of these Rollabind punches. Unfortately, the seller no longer wants to see these things outside of Poland. He&#039;s basically selling them at a loss to try to interest people in their real product--the rings, and paper. So, this deal is no longer available. Sorry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.S. How come I can&#039;t edit my original post? Was it written during one of the contests? or are super-old posts not editable? I would love to delete my original post, or at least edit it, but I can&#039;t. :-( Sorry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Jon&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:13:32 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>jonglass</dc:creator>
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 <title>Not compatible enough to interchange</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I have to say I&#039;m really frustrated with the Myndology stuff. My notebooks are floppy, not stiff like Levenger covers and the  pages really are not interchangeable, especially at the letter size. Even if the smurfs work, it&#039;s 10 rings instead of 11, so they don&#039;t line up well. Also, if you score these 20% off coupons for Levenger, the Myndology stuff isn&#039;t that much less expensive, if at all. I&#039;m going to stick with Circa.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed,  2 Apr 2008 15:43:11 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>ap1994</dc:creator>
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 <title>Not in English</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the link. Might prove useful as a (slightly) cheaper alternative to Rollabind. However, the UK subsidiary of that company doesn&#039;t seem to list the Atoma punch.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 03:53:37 -0400</pubDate>
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 <title>Hi,
I hust recieved a</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;br /&gt;
I hust recieved a newletter from a German store where you can order (and see, of course) the Atoma desk punch. Only drawback is its price: 98 €.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.manufactum.de/product/1412075/group/172232/Produktdetail.1773.0.html&quot;&gt;ATOMA punch @ Manufaktum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 03:23:45 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>problemloeser</dc:creator>
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 <title>Please do...</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Such a deal or better for the punch, along with the rings... if the offer is still valid, please contact me ASAP re details. Thanks very much!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 22:06:47 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Origjigji</dc:creator>
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 <title>BIL</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll talk with my BIL when I see him next month... Interesting....&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:11:39 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Tournevis</dc:creator>
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 <title>wooden rings</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Might perhaps be worth checking with a woodturner who does small items in dense wood, see if they can turn out some rings. Though it could be a bit expensive for a full-size binder with lots of rings.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 21:05:57 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>judyofthewoods</dc:creator>
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 <title>Give it a shot!</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Wooden rings would look awfully nice with Levenger leather covers!  If you&#039;re thinking about a Circa leather notebook, it might be worth a try to see if your rings fit it.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 20:51:35 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>altcountryman</dc:creator>
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 <title>Thanks!</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;That shows me a lot -- this is a good illustration of the different cross-sections of the rings.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Given the lack of an affordable Atoma punch, I think I&#039;ll stick with my Rolla/Circa setup, although the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atoma.be/en/stationary-catalog.php?category=bio+atoma&amp;amp;cat=Notebooks&quot;&gt;wooden Atoma rings&lt;/a&gt; would look excellent with a leather cover.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 19:52:18 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Friend of Pens</dc:creator>
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 <title>pics</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Here are a couple pictures of the two pages together.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/23801395@N00/492990985/&quot; title=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/23801395@N00/492990985/&quot;&gt;http://www.flickr.com/photos/23801395@N00/492990985/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Like I said, I&#039;ve really just played with this a bit, but I don&#039;t see why it wouldn&#039;t work.  YMMV.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 19:10:20 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>altcountryman</dc:creator>
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 <title>Aren&#039;t the smurfs different?</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;From what I&#039;ve read, the smurfs on the pages are different enough between the two systems that they are effectively incompatible.  What would clinch it, I think, is seeing a close-up photo of the smurfed edge of Atoma and Circa paper.  Ring diameter isn&#039;t really a factor, but if the shape of the holes is significantly different, then I would not expect much compatibility love between the two.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can you take such a side-by-side picture?&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 17:47:44 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Friend of Pens</dc:creator>
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 <title>works for me</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I had also heard that the two were incompatible, but I now own both (just got my Circa Junior!) and it actually seems like the pages would work OK together.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I haven&#039;t done a lot of swapping, but a test sheet of Atoma paper does fine in my Circa, as does a Circa page in my Atoma.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, my Atoma pages are a high-quality paper like the Circa.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 17:43:19 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>altcountryman</dc:creator>
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 <title>Desk punch</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I ordered my punch later, so have not received it yet, but I can join Reepicheep in saying that Jon has been very helpful, and has kept me up-to-date. Jon only asked for the cost price, but I think its only fair to add something for his effort, in case he is too shy to ask (I did suggest he should request a handling fee). That still makes it a much, much cheaper punch than what it would cost from a trader in this country or having it shipped from the US. And that&#039;s not even counting the 1320 rings that are included!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed,  9 May 2007 23:28:11 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>judyofthewoods</dc:creator>
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 <title>No problem with the service</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Jon&#039;s service and attitude are excellent; defintiely a man to be trusted. Always kept me updated with what was going on.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been using my new Rollabind stuff for proof-reading a 5,000 word dissertation due next week. Improved my proofing technique 1000-fold; will write this up with pictures (?) after next week when the dissertation and a further 3,500 word essay have been handed in.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The only issue Europeans might encounter is the postage costs. However, even with shipping it from Poland to London my new Rollabind punch and those 1,200 discs cost me less than driving a hundred miles round trip to one of the few UK stockists to buy a punch on its own. Add the discs in and I saved about £150 (about US$300 or €250 at today&#039;s exchange rates).&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed,  9 May 2007 10:57:40 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>reepicheep</dc:creator>
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 <title>Can I offer my services?</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;There is a supplier here in Poland, on our &quot;eBay&quot; clone, that has been offering the desktop ollabind punch for about 10€, together with 420 1/4&quot; rings, 420 1/2&quot; rings, and 360 or so 3/4&quot; rings. This kit would be enough to keep you going for quite a while. I&#039;ve already purchased a couple for others on this list (forgive me, Reepicheep and Judyofthewoods--but I gotta mention your names here). So, if you are interested, and have Paypal, send me a private message via my contact page, and we can discuss the details. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And this offer extends to any Euro-based fellow-circa-envious on this forum. I&#039;m not keen on opening this up to everybody, but if I can help somebody get addicted--er, I mean, if I can help someone become more productive, I will help if I can. :-) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, just PM me, and we can figure out how to go about it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Jon&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed,  9 May 2007 06:47:10 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>jonglass</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I popped in a college bookstore near my house and found disc-bound index and fobster size card sets from Atoma, which is a Netherlands-based company. Their website is at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atoma.be&quot; title=&quot;www.atoma.be&quot;&gt;www.atoma.be&lt;/a&gt; and their US-based distributor is Myndology at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myndology.com&quot; title=&quot;www.myndology.com&quot;&gt;www.myndology.com&lt;/a&gt;. The 3x5 cards were $3.59 and the fobster size cards were $2.59. I did not see any kind of punch. They seem to want to sell refill cards. I  think the Rollabind punch will work.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:05:42 -0400</pubDate>
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